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Sep7Six straight against the White Sox
Lee Judge
The Kansas City Star
After the Royals won their sixth straight game against the White Sox, Ned Yost was asked to explain the streak. Ned pointed out that the Royals have been playing pretty good baseball for the past six weeks. He has a point. For the “glass is half full” crowd — and if you have to watch every pitch of 162 games that’s probably the right attitude — the play over the last six weeks has been encouraging. When the Royals get decent starting pitching, they’re competitive.
Even on a night when the starting pitcher gives up five earned runs in 5 1/3 innings (Luis Mendoza‘s off-speed pitches were up in the zone and then sometimes up in the grandstands), the offense, defense and bullpen were good enough to pull this game out, 7-5.
Game notes
In the first inning Mendoza gave up a single to Alejandro De Aza, then got Jose Lopez to ground out to the right side. That moved De Aza to second and left first open. It appeared Luis worked around the left-handed Dewayne Wise to get to Paul Konerko. That might not seem like a good idea, but Konerko came into the game hitting .188 against Mendoza and is also a double play candidate. Mendoza got Konerko to hit the ball on the ground, but it snuck past Mike Moustakas into left field. So the plan was good, it just didn’t work out.
Moose barely missed the grounder and did not dive to keep the ball on the infield — which is not Moose-like. Failure to keep the ball on the infield allowed De Aza to come around and score. Mike rarely plays a game without a dirty uniform, so my guess is the ball took some kind of unexpected hop.
With Wise on second, Alex Rios singled to right field. The Sox declined to challenge Jeff Francoeur‘s arm — a case where someone’s reputation saves a run and doesn’t show up in any box score. After a popup and a grounder, the inning was over and Wise never scored.
White Sox starting pitcher Francisco Liriano throws a nasty slider — he wanted it down in the zone, hitters wanted it up. Salvador Perez got a slider up on an 0-2 count and homered with Billy Butler on base.
Wise, the left fielder, was nowhere near the left field line, so it’s likely the slider — an off-speed pitch which would be pulled — was supposed to be a “chase” pitch and not thrown for a strike. If you don’t have a defender where the hitter will hit the pitch, the pitch is not supposed to be put in play.
Like the last time the Royals showed power on the road, this Perez home run was another home run that would not be out of the park in Kauffman. Don’t be fooled by the fact that U.S. Cellular’s left field foul pole is the same distance from home plate — 330 feet. In Kauffman the park continues to get deeper behind the foul pole. In U.S. Cellular Field the fence runs at almost a right angle from the pole.
No stolen base attempts — according to Joel Goldberg, Liriano is a 1.3 to plate. About a tenth of a second too fast for most runners.
Speaking of speed; according to Chris Getz — who’s played in both places — Chicago’s infield is slower than Kansas City’s. Balls that shoot by an infielder in KC are playable in the Windy City.
In the third inning Wise tripled on a slider down, but lefties hit balls down. Once again, a pitch that probably wasn’t supposed to be put in play found a huge gap. Jeff Francoeur was way off the right field line which is part of why Wise was tripled.
It’s no surprise Wise did this on a 1-2 count. Like Perez homering 0-2, the pitchers got ahead, tried to throw a breaking pitch down out of the zone, hung it and got it whacked into the unprotected part of the outfield.
Once again, Francoeur saved a run without making a play: following the Wise triple, Konerko hit a fly ball to right and Wise again decided not to tag up and challenge Jeff’s arm.
Wise did not show Johnny Giavotella the same respect, and Gio made him pay. After the Konerko fly out, Alex Rios hit a pop fly down the right field line and Johnny ran a long way to make the catch. Wise, probably figuring Gio was going away from home plate and would have no momentum on the throw, tagged and tried to score. Johnny made the catch, whirled and threw a strike to home plate, nailing Wise and saving a run.
(By the way, if you didn’t see it have you begun to figure out this was a really entertaining ball game?)
Francouer’s second at-bat illustrated part of what’s been going on with him this year. Frenchy worked the count to 2-0 and was clearly looking for a fastball on the next pitch. He got it: 93 mph and middle-middle (middle of the plate lateral and vertically). Jeff appeared to over-swing and missed his pitch. He got to a 2-2 count, still appeared to be in pull mode and hooked a change up into a 5-4-3 double play. Every pitch of the at-bat was middle-away.
When hitters over-swing, their muscles tighten up too much. That includes the muscles in the neck and shoulder. The swing pulls their head off the ball, and they miss their pitch. Recently, Jeff and I talked about how often he’s missed his pitch this year and still been at the plate, behind in the count.
In Billy Butler’s third at-bat, Liriano threw him an 87 mph change up. Throwing something other than a fastball in a fastball count is how a pitcher puts doubt in hitters’ minds. He doesn’t always have to throw off-speed in fastball counts as long as he proves he will on occasion.
Here’s a stat I got off TV: since Gordon moved to the three-hole he’s hit .322, Billy’s hit .357 and Salvador Perez has hit .348.
After Liriano walked Perez and Moustakas to start the 6th, Robin Ventura went to his bullpen and brought in right-hander Nate Jones to face Francoeur. It looked like Frenchy adjusted to the idea that they were pitching him away and letting him try to pull those pitches. Jeff hit the second pitch he saw — a 100 mph fastball — down the right field line for a double.
Eric Hosmer followed with a professional job of hitting, getting the ball in the air and scoring the second run of the inning.
Lorenzo Cain, who had already struck out twice and homered, got a 3-0 green light and did a bad job with it: a check swing that tapped the ball back to the mound. Hitters who get to swing 3-0 are expected to zone down and only swing at pitches right down the middle. Weak 3-0 hacks will lose a hitter the privilege of swinging away in that situation.
Lorenzo more than made up for the weak 3-0 swing by hitting his second home run of the game in the ninth inning. Hitting game-winning home runs in the ninth might get a hitter another 3-0 green light.
The Justice League
One of the things I admire about baseball is its remarkably efficient system of crime and punishment: commit a baseball “crime” and a baseball “punishment” will soon follow.
As we saw when Nelson Cruz admired one of his home runs a little too long (a baseball crime that falls under the heading of “showing up the opposition” ), baseball punishment followed when he got hit by a pitch soon after. Everyone involved claimed they were just “pitching inside” which most observers didn’t buy — including Cruz.
Actually, the unwritten rules say Cruz was supposed to accept his punishment, put his head down and jog to first. Instead, Cruz glared at Louis Coleman and made one of those “hold-me-back” moves to the mound that made everyone else follow the next step in the justice system protocol: coming out to protect their teammates. Bullpens and dugouts emptied, nobody really wanted to fight, but the baseball customs had been observed and everyone could then get back to what they were doing. Cruz committed a crime and was punished.
So why hash all this over again?
The last time the Royals faced the White Sox, Billy Butler hit a home run off Chris Sale. Apparently, Billy enjoyed that one a little too much and then got too much height on the subsequent bat flip. I think everyone who saw that bat flip wondered if there would be repercussions. The next day, Jake Peavy drilled Billy in the hip. What a coincidence. I didn’t talk to Peavy, but I’m guessing he was just “pitching inside” or the pitch “got away from him.” If the Sox were upset with Billy, I don’t know why Sale didn’t take care of it himself. He had the perfect opportunity to get back at Butler in the next plate appearance — an intentional walk. In any case, Sale didn’t hit Billy, and if I’m reading the situation correctly, Peavy took care of business the next day.
Once again, the rules were followed: Billy committed a “crime” and received punishment. Billy did the right thing: he took his base. The incident should be over — unless Sale still thinks he has something to prove. If Chris Sale hits Billy Butler without further provocation, expect trouble. Butler already got drilled once, the justice system says he’s already paid his debt to society.
Enjoy today’s game. And don’t leave the room when Billy Butler comes to the plate.
Royals hitting coach Kevin Seitzer on what he sees in players
Kansas City Royals hitting coach Kevin Seitzer final installment with Lee Judge on what he sees in players. September 8, 2012 (Video by John Sleezer/The Kansas City Star)

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Luke Healy
8 months, 2 weeks agothat’s a good stat on the numbers after moving gordon down to the 3 hole. i wonder what the stats are on the players hitting 1-2 since he’s moved down. esky’s been in a bit of a slump but it would be hard to say that’s correlated i think. without looking at the numbers it seems like we’ve gotten some decent production out of the leadoff spot, but i wonder what the obp is.
there’s always something extremely satisfying about beating the white sox. i wonder if players feel the same way about certain teams.
Clark Hart
8 months, 2 weeks agoAs always, Lee, outstanding observations and game summary. You really kind of tick me off when I read one of your comments and think it shouldn’t have been a revelation to a 40-year fan. :) Props for this: “The Sox declined to challenge Jeff Francoeur‘s arm — a case where someone’s reputation saves a run and doesn’t show up in any box score.” I know Frenchy is having an awful year, but things like this fall into the category of the little stuff Getz does to help the team win. Won’t show in the box score or on highlight reels, won’t pad his stats or get him high-fives, but he saved two runs in this game based on his rep. Too bad there ISN’T a stat for how many runners declined to advance on Frenchy or Gordon this year. And that was mostly set up last year when they were runner-killing machines. Also love your observations regarding pitch counts and what hitters expect and get. So great to continue to add layers to how I watch this wonderful game of baseball.
Joel Kallem
8 months, 2 weeks agoPlay by Esky last night was unbelievable helped out by Hos at first. Does anyone still doubt that we got the best of the Grienke trade?
Lee Judge
8 months, 2 weeks agoLuke: I’ve got no idea about the other spots in the order. The TV guys threw that number up there and I thought I’d pass it along for anyone who missed it.
Interesting, but not a complete picture by any means.
Lee Judge
8 months, 2 weeks agoClark: Don’t feel bad, I’m in the same boat. I thought I knew baseball until I started hanging out with the people who play it for a living.
That’s been 20 years now. I’ve played in maybe a thousand games as an adult, managed over 500, hung out with hundreds of major league players, coaches and managers and every day someone tells me something I didn’t know.
As soon as they say things like “the best outfield arms sometimes prevent people from running” you hit yourself in the forehead and think, of course. Why didn’t I think of that?
I don’t find it threatening or upsetting when it happens—I find it thrilling. There’s still more to learn after all this time.
I don’t know if some of the more advanced metrics can take reputation into account (not sure how they’d do that), but there will always be things that numbers can’t reveal. It doesn’t mean you ignore numbers, but it does you mean there are things that aren’t being recorded.
I’m glad you’re enjoying baseball even more after watching for 40 years. Me, too.
Lee Judge
8 months, 2 weeks agoJoel: That Escobar play was awesome and Hosmer handled a tough hop on the other end. I wonder how Chicago’s slower infield affected the play: it allowed Esky to get to a ball that might have been in the outfield otherwise, but also meant it took longer for the ball to arrive.
Running away from your target, leaping and throwing back the other way with no momentum takes an incredibly strong arm.
Same thing with Moose when he backed up to get a better bounce and then gunned it. As I recall Gio made his great play on Rios, so did Moose and then Esky. Alex Rios must feel snake-bit.
Thayne Griffin
8 months, 2 weeks agoLuke, AGREED! I love nothing more than beating the ChiSox. And I cannot stand their commentators. Thought it was absolutely hysterical when Hudler said “You can put it on the booooooooooooooooard! YEAH!!!” after Cain’s HR. Hope the ChiSox announcers heard it in their booth.
Terry Payne
8 months, 1 week agoJoel - no doubt the Royals got the best in that trade. My understanding is that the key to the whole trade was Esky. Give him or get no Zack.
LoCain or no LoCain, I still sez that trade was great for this franchise.
And still idiots call 4 GMDM to be fired, every day.
Jeff Frost
8 months, 1 week agoAmen Terry!!! Both on the trade and on Dayton. This team was so decimated that he literally had to start from scratch! We would have been better off literally, to be an expansion team than what Dayton inherited in June 2006. Great job DM, and 2013 should be like 1984 for us! One giant leap….
Daniel Wesley
8 months, 1 week agoYou know, the Royals inaugural franchise draft was in 1968 and the Royals won 88 games in 1973… 5 years later.
Dayton is on Year 6 and has peaked at 75 wins… in 2008. Just sayin’.
Daniel Wesley
8 months, 1 week agoAs an addendum, I think it’s interesting to point out that the Royals actually had their first winning season (85-76) in 1971, in only the franchise’s third full season of existence.
Maybe Dayton Moore will take us to great places, and maybe he won’t, but I can’t take it seriously when someone tries to tell me, “We were an expansion team when Dayton was hired!” or, “He had to start from scratch!”.
The Royals went from nothing to a winning team in 3 years, and 5 years later were primed to go on their winning ways for a decade. We’re not anywhere near that in Dayton’s 6th full season.
Larry Tindle
8 months, 1 week agoAs I remember and my memory is not anywhere near what it used to be. When an expansion team is formed they get to raid all the other teams minor league teams. You get to start with players that are way ahead of the amateur draft, which is what DM has had to do.
Daniel Wesley
8 months, 1 week agoLarry, it’s basically a glorified Rule 5 draft. The existing teams got to protect their best players and the Royals, Expos, Pilots, and Padres got to choose from the rest. The Royals got a few decent initial players - Bob Oliver, Al Fitzmorris, etc… but certainly no stars. When Dayton was handed the keys, he had DeJesus, Butler, Gordon, and Greinke and a few other decent miscellaneous pieces.