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Jul26How you lose a ball game
Lee Judge
The Kansas City Star
I hadn’t been to many Ned Yost post-game press conferences before I picked up this pattern: if Ned was talking about his starting pitcher keeping the ball down in the zone, he was talking about a win. If Ned was talking about his starting pitcher throwing the ball up in the zone, he was talking about a loss.
After this game, Ned Yost was talking about his starting pitcher throwing the ball up in the zone.
First inning: During his first at bat Alcides Escobar turns back toward the umpire after a pitch up in the zone. Esky appears to ask a question, then nods. Turning back toward the umpire is frowned upon if the hitter is complaining about the call. Complaining is supposed to be done while staring straight ahead or looking down. That way the fans don’t know the hitter is unhappy. Some of the dirt-smoothing you see hitters do with their feet is really an excuse to talk to the umpire while appearing to manicure the batter’s box.
But Esky’s nod probably means he was asking a question. The hitters often want to know if that’s the extent of the zone on a borderline pitch. Get a pitch up or away and the hitter may ask, “Is that as far as you’re going to go?” The hitter is trying to find out the limit of the zone and get the umpire to commit to that limit.
On the other hand, Alcides could’ve been asking if the salmon in Seattle is as good as they say — but I like my version better.
In the bottom of the inning Luis Mendoza, a sinkerball pitcher, is having trouble getting the ball down in the zone. There can be several reasons for that — over-striding is one — but here’s another reason you may not have considered: the mound in the visiting bullpen is supposed to be the same as the mound on the field, but that hasn’t always been the case.
If the slope or dirt or surface hardness of the bullpen mound is different from the game mound, that can throw a visiting pitcher off, at least for an inning or two. I’m not saying this is what happened in Seattle — their mounds may be identical — but I am saying it’s been known to happen. (Hey, if I can make up imaginary conversations between Alcides Escobar and the home plate umpire I can certainly conjure up a tricky grounds crew.) Whatever the reason, Mendoza is up in the zone and gets whacked around for two runs.
Jeff Francoeur picks up another outfield assist when he’s fooled on a fly ball and lets it drop in front of him. Fortunately, the runner on first, Casper Wells, is also fooled, doesn’t advance in time and Frenchy forces him out at second base. In this game both Francoeur and Alex Gordon can be seen attempting to deke runners on balls that are going to drop for hits. Both outfielders hold their gloves up as if they’re going to make the catch in an attempt to freeze the runner and prevent further advance.
Second inning: Mike Moustakas is out on a 3-1 play at first base, but the play forces Jason Vargas to sprint to cover the bag. When the pitcher sprints to cover, you can often see infielders waiting for him on the mound afterwards. The plan is to slow the game down and allow the pitcher to catch his breath before delivering the next pitch.
When a pitcher is winded, he sometimes won’t bend over as deeply on his follow through. That can mean the pitch will be up in the zone. Vargas is still gasping when he delivers a changeup to Salvador Perez. The pitch is in the middle of the zone and Perez hits a line drive — right at the left fielder.
Third inning:Vargas strikes out Eric Hosmer on a 3-2 85-mph cutter. The Seattle pitcher is adding and subtracting: when he gets in a fastball count — and hitters know a fastball is coming — Vargas still disrupts their timing by adding or subtracting a few miles an hour off the expected pitch. Pitchers who do this often take a few miles an hour off the pitch in a big situation, figuring the hitter’s adrenaline will have him over-aggressive and out in front.
In the bottom of the inning Mendoza gets the first two hitters on a total of three pitches. Kyle Seager then takes what is sometimes considered a selfish at-bat — he swings at the first pitch. Seager pops up and Mendoza is off the mound in four pitches. Instead of taking one or even two strikes for the good of his team, Seager’s at-bat puts Jason Vargas right back on the mound without much rest between innings.
Fourth inning: The two may be entirely unrelated, but Seager’s at-bat is followed by the only inning in which Vargas struggles. Gordon grounds out, but Vargas has to throw eight pitches to him, Lorenzo Cain walks and Vargas then falls behind Billy Butler, 3-0. Ned Yost likes to give the 3-0 green light to hitters with some power who can do some damage on a grooved fastball. Billy gets the green light and doubles in Cain.
In the bottom half, the Royals give the run right back (when your team scores it’s psychologically important to throw a “shutdown” inning afterwards) and the score is 3-1, Mariners.
Sixth inning: Ryan Lefebvre and Rex Hudler are talking about Vargas and how he seems “sneaky fast.” This is how you refer to a pitcher who doesn’t throw that hard according to the radar gun, but still seems able to blow fastballs past hitters. Guys who are sneaky fast usually have something in their delivery that hides the ball a long time. Vargas has an inward turn, his back is almost completely turned to the plate during his delivery.
When fans see an inward turn, they can also assume the pitcher is slow to the plate — that turn takes time. But despite his slow delivery time, Alex Gordon on first base is having a hard time reading Vargas, sometimes breaking back to the bag as Vargas delivers home.
In the bottom of the sixth, the Mariners put together two doubles and score one run. After a wild pitch moves Carlos Peguero to third, Salvador Perez blocks three consecutive sliders in the dirt, preventing a fifth run from scoring.
Seventh inning: Jeff Francoeur grounds out, 6-3. In his first at-bat Jeff struck out looking, in his second at-bat, he struck out swinging. Francoer is trying to fix a hole in his swing that has him missing hittable pitches. Kevin Seitzer says Jeff is coming underneath the ball and a loop in a hitter’s swing means he’ll have a hard time hitting pitches up in the zone or on the inside half — and it’s not so hot on pitches away, either. A loop means the bat head is dropping (think of a golf swing) and the hitter has a hard time hitting anything but a pitch down in the zone.
Eighth inning: Yuniesky Betancourt makes an error on a potential double play ball. Yuni probably makes the error because it was a potential double play ball. Had there been two down, Betancourt probably would’ve squared his body up and kept the ball in front of him. Because it’s a possible double play ball, Yuni is playing it off to his left side, preparing to continue spinning to his left, reverse pivot and throw the ball to second. A passed ball allows both runners to move up and, with the infield in and one down, the Mariners put on the contact play.
Casper Wells hits the ball to Escobar, Alcides throws home in plenty of time to beat the runner coming down the line — Dustin Ackley — and Ackley retreats to third. Perez tags Ackley before he makes it back to the bag and then alertly throws out Wells who was trying to sneak into second base while the play was being made at third base.
Ninth inning: Billy Butler gets only the second Royals hit of the game, his 201st double. Royals lose, 4-1.
Watching the base runner
(I was reminded of this when I saw an Angels runner peel off during a double play in Anaheim.)
On a potential 4-6-3 or 6-4-3 double play, most fans follow the ball. But there’s something to be learned from watching the runner approaching second. Even when they know they’re going to be out, good ballplayers run as hard as they can. If the runner can get to the pivot man, they might save their team an out at first base.
Runners are supposed to slide hard at the pivot man’s feet. Few runners want to injure a middle infielder, but they don’t mind flipping one or forcing the infielder to jump over them. Either one disrupts the throw. Even making the pivot man move sideways to avoid contact or step back to keep the base in between themselves and the sliding runner takes something off the throw to first and lessens the chance of a double play.
That’s what a good base runner does. Far too often you see a ballplayer make a half-hearted effort to get to the pivot man, then veer off to the side which provides and easy throwing lane to complete a double play.
Even when both ballplayers are doing the right thing, it’s a delicate balance: the runner slides hard at the pivot man’s feet and it’s the pivot man’s job to get out of the way. On the defensive side, the pivot man forces the runner to get down and out of the way by dropping his arm angle down and throwing at the runner’s head. Neither player is trying to injure the other. They’re just doing what they have to do. The other player is expected to protect himself.
But there are times when someone goes too far in breaking up the double play. If a runner gets down and then does a pop-up slide into the pivot man, that might start a fight. That’s an easy way to trap an infielder’s foot and then use the body to blow out a knee or break a leg. Less dirty, but still cheating, is leaving a hand out to the side that just happens to hook the pivot man’s leg or foot.
The double play can be a thing of beauty, but you can learn a lot by not keeping your eye on the ball.

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Dan Holmes
9 months, 3 weeks agoArticle isn’t loading for me… anyone else?
I’m hoping that the Royals are simply trying to showcase Betancourt before the trade deadline just like they did with Jose Guillen a couple years ago. If not for the fact that we are a few days from the deadline, I would call for Betancourt’s apathetical error tonight to be the final straw. But I’m willing to wait a few days more.
John Wilson
9 months, 3 weeks agoLee had said earlier this week that with these west coast games, it would be morning before they got posted. Patience young padawan :-)
Brian Grant
9 months, 3 weeks agoHow you lose a ball game? Start any one of these pitchers:
Luis Mendoza Luke Hochevar Jeremy Guthrie Will Smith
The rest of your team doesn’t really matter at that point.
Terry Payne
9 months, 3 weeks agoJuly. Yet another season tanked in this month.
Scott Mall
9 months, 3 weeks agoDo the Royals’ hitters guess on the next pitch more than other teams? It seems like they swing at a lot of really bad pitches, especially in the dirt, and let a lot of really good pitches go by.
Jim Wilson
9 months, 3 weeks agoScott, per the stats, the Royals swing at more pitches outside the strike zone than any other team and swing at pitches inside the strike zone less than league average. That’s a bad combination.
Darral VanGoethem
9 months, 3 weeks agoJim W,
Interesting stats but then you would think they would strike out as a team more then they do. And yet, they are 1st in the majors with the least Ks as a team. Seems more like your stats show over aggression and less patience at the plate. All symptoms that come with young hitters. Be patient, this team will develop patience at the plate.
I find it ironic that many ppl show the IMPATIENCE to allow this young core of players develop more PATIENCE at the plate.
Outside of Butler, Frenchy, Yuni and Gordon, who have been in the bigs for multiple years, all the other position players are either in their 1st or 2nd full season in the bigs. Cain & Salvy haven’t even had the benefit of a full season in the bigs yet. Gordon is showing what maturity and patience at the bigs can do after you learn to do it. Hell, even with Gordon this is only his 3rd such season and 2nd consecutive full season.
I would wager to guess that by this time next season; Moose,Hosmer,Cain,Salvy & Esky will be even better at their plate discipline and patience. And whom ever is in RF & 2nd will be having the issues that the above mentioned 5 players had last year and this season. So, be PATIENT!!
Jim Wilson
9 months, 3 weeks agoRoyals don’t strike out, but they don’t walk either. Who said I was impatient?
Darral VanGoethem
9 months, 3 weeks agoJim W,
Did I address you personally other than in the heading and the subsequent 1st paragraph?
I went on to say “many ppl…” did not mention you by name. Should have put “Everyone else,….” after the 1st paragraph so as to not offend you? haha!!
Matthew Tiemeyer
9 months, 3 weeks agoI believe that plate discipline is a skill that can be honed, but I don’t think it can be inserted into a player who doesn’t have any. Players who naturally have a bent to be able to lay off balls and hit good strikes may see that ability dip as they move from level to level through the minors and to the majors. But no one who’s bad at it in the minors learns it at the major league level.
Darral VanGoethem
9 months, 3 weeks agoMy next 3 paragraphs after I addressed you were to expand on your limited comment and bring some enlightenment to Scott to help answer his question.
The fact that they don’t walk much but don’t K much but they are still hitting for a good avg as a team tells me that overall this team is filled with talented hitters that know how to get the bat on the ball. They just need to refine their approach and be more patient. Which I am confident will come.
Darral VanGoethem
9 months, 3 weeks agoMatthew, how would you explain Melky’s career resurgence then? Plate discipline isn’t so much about laying off pitches that are in a certain location, they are about laying off and narrowing down the hittable pitches that each pitcher you face throws and identifying that pitch out of the pitchers hand or based on pitch sequence. Also, it is an ability to lay off the pitch that they know the pitcher is going to throw them to get them to swing. That is why watching Frenchy at the plate is so maddening. He KNOWS that every pitcher is going to pitch him inside b/c they want him to chase it, get behind in the count and then they will throw him something low and away or up and in to finish him off when he is in a defensive count. That can be honed but they have the discipline to lay off. That is why Moose has been able to go the season without any prolonged slumps b/c he knows what the pitchers are going to throw him to get him in a defensive count so he does his best to lay off those pitches.
Matt, what you are talking about is the ability to see what is a ball and what is a strike and that typically is subjective depending on the umpire and the hitters ability to identify that. You are correct about that aspect of plate discipline. But that is not what plate discipline is when you hear major leaguers talk about it or when you hear Seitzer talking about them waiting for “their pitch” and not chasing the “pitchers pitch”.
Devan Shopinski
9 months, 3 weeks agoToo few walks, but oddly enough they’ve also struck out the fewest number of times. Too many guys swinging at the first pitch regardless of location or pitch type and making outs. They rank dead last out of 30 teams in BA on the first pitch, but 19th when behind in the count 0-1 and 5th when ahead 1-0. Real simple to figure out…other teams aren’t throwing you a quality strike on first pitch so take one more often. Pretty soon they’ll figure it out and quit throwing 1st pitches out of the zone.
My point is this…put a take sign on. How many times have we seen an opposing pitcher get on the ropes early and then settle in? How many time is that a result of first pitch swinging and allowing the guy to get into a groove with innings of 9 or fewer pitches? How many big innings are killed when a pitcher is struggling with control and they let him off the hook by swinging at a first pitch and making an out?
Darral VanGoethem
9 months, 3 weeks agoDevan,
I could not agree more. It will come. They have to learn it on their own.